Do I have to floss?

Hello Ellie
I’m looking at your mouth care system. As someone who flosses regularly … I notice that flossing is conspicuously absent from your program? Why? Is your system a substitute for flossing? Can your system be used by someone who flosses? At what step would the flossing happen?



Hi DJ,

GREAT question!!!

Flossing ad brushing were (at one point in history) the only way people knew to “clean” teeth for oral health. Flossing and brushing , along with tongue brushing, can remove quite a bit of the foamy film we know as plaque.

However ( EVEN if you brush and floss amazingly well) this process does nothing to address two important features of this infective disease: 1) splatter of bacteria all around your mouth, and 2) reduce INFECTIVE bacteria from your saliva or mouth mucosa. Because of this, as soon as you have finished your cleaning, infective bacteria will immediately re-infect your beautifully brushed and flossed teeth!

Around 1970 the dental world had studies to prove (for once and for all) that dental disease is a transmissible, contagious disease. Infective plaque bacteria are not only on teeth, but throughout the connecting oral and ear tubes, sinus etc the skin of the tongue, mucosa and also in saliva.
Cavities and gum disease are the result of acids and toxins produced by these bacteria, Strep.mutans.

Flossing may help remove some plaque on teeth, but it does nothing to eradicate THE BACTERIA of the infection elsewhere in the oral cavity and head. Also, flossing may splatter cavity forming bacteria to other people in the air where you floss or infect nearby toothbrushes with bacteria.

If you were to test your saliva for Strep.mutans (plaque bacteria) after flossing  it would still contain Strep.mutans  same number as before you started.

Constant, adequate amounts of xylitol (one teaspoon a day in five divided doses) will ERADICATE Strep.mutans from teeth (five weeks) from the oral mucosa, tongue and saliva (by the end of 6 months). This means that if you were to test saliva for Strep.mutans after 6 months of xylitol “therapy” it would NOT contain Strep.mutans the bacteria of cavities and gum disease would have gone at least 98% would be gone!

Flossing can help remove food from between teeth I agree. But food is not the ultimate problem bacteria are the cause of dental disease. I also worry that if you have gum disease, flossing may make gums bleed and in this way open up wounds which may prevent natural gum healing. There are no studies on this subject as far as I know (too politically incorrect!!).

If you are at risk for heart disease I think flossing in an infected mouth (when it causes bleeding) may actually be A HEALTH PROBLEM. (I believe there is a risk of forcing bacteria into your blood stream.) I suggest people work to get their gums healthy (no longer bleeding) with my system BEFORE they floss at all.

For someone who does not want to floss (or cannot floss) my system will keep their teeth and gums healthy. Some people who have tried to please their dental professionals for years can suddenly impress them without any flossing! Ha!

If you want to floss, I suggest you floss BEFORE you start the daily mouth rinse system BEFORE the pre-rinse step of the system.

The rinses and xylitol of my system address the INFECTION of dental disease eradication of plaque bacteria. My system of rinses will not force bacteria into the blood stream. I suggest my system of oral care is safer for adults with risk for high blood pressure or heart problems.
My system eradicates plaque in a gentle and effective way.

Hope this explains how my system works and where flossing fits in and why you may want to NOT floss at least until your gums are healthy!
Best Wishes,

26 Corporate Woods
Rochester, NY 14623

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  • JBG says:

    If bacteria are the (only) problem, and food on the teeth is not itself a problem, could we not dispense with brushing as well as with flossing?

  • Dr. Ellie says:

    Toothbrushing may be unnecessary! Common sense suggests it is far more important to remove the disease bacteria than pieces of food!Without bacteria – the food will not affect the teeth. When toothbrushing studies were critically reviewed by Evidence Based Reviews in 2001 (NIH) the results showed of toothbrushing studies showed that toothbrushing did not show significant results for prevention of cavities….I can look out these studies if you like. There have also been studies in Switzerland where people lived as cavemen ( without modern facilities) and on caveman type diets.The periodontists were excited to measure gum health before and after the event.The results of the study were not what they expected – the gum health had improved! Ha!! I was not surprised!I am looking for the reference. In 2008 a group of 290 patients were scheduled for extraction and another group had toothbrushing followed by tooth extraction. Blood samples were drawn after toothbrushing or tooth extraction and cultured for bacteria. Bacteria considered to be potential causes of heart problems were found in the blood of 23% of patients in the toothbrushing group. These findings suggest that brushing poses a risk for bacteria in the blood similar to that of a dental extraction….hmmmmm.. another good reason to eat Zellies and consider my rinsing routine to eradicate harmful mouth bacteria! I think applying good toothpaste to teeth is important before Listerine rinse.Without any kind of rinses or pastes you had better have a great alkaline diet and a great alkaline natural saliva chemistry.I prefer to be safe than sorry! Good question – perhaps we are on to something here ! Ellie http://www.zellies.com26 Corporate WoodsRochester, NY 14623(585) 272-1270

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