Crest Pro Health Mouth Wash

Dear Dr. Ellie:

I have been hearing a lot about crest pro health mouth wash. what are your opinions about that and is it better then Listerine? I had recently heard that rinsing with alcohol based mouth washes can cause oral cancer which is why I have been looking for something else besides Listerine.

MP

Dear MP

I think the companies with mouth rinses to sell love to promote negative stories about Listerine the top selling mouth rinse for generations, (it was originally used as an antiseptic for skin during the 1800s!)

I agree that you do not want to leave alcohol on teeth at the end of mouth rinsing not because of oral cancer but because it dries the mouth and dries the teeth. The whitening products with peroxide are far more likely to cause oral cancer than anything else. Don’t use any of these!

I suggest a sequence of mouth rinsing in which Listerine is used before the final rinse. This way we use the cleaning benefits of Listerine but eliminate the mouth drying alcohol by rinsing it off with a non-alcohol protective rinse (ACT).

My system is amazing when you use it in the way I recommend.
http://www.zellies.com/store.asp?pid=14406&catid=19708

If you want to try these other systems remember they were designed by people who are making money from the sales. I have no investment in any of these rinses or toothpaste. You can go to Walgreens and buy them all.

Why do I do what I do? Because my system works and over the years your teeth get healthier and healthier. Try it for yourself and then you will be able to compare the other products (if you want to).

Ellie



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  • Annie says:

    Did you just try to make a link btwn peroxide mouthwash and cancer? I almost took you seriously. this really bums me out, now i have to find another source to look into remineralization of teeth. wow.

  • Dr. Ellie says:

    There is a lot of money in bleaching teeth.I am in a minority – but not alone – in my concern about bleaching and peroxide. When Listerine whitening mouthrinse came onto the market I called the chairman of the Scientific committee of the ADA.I asked him how the ADA could allow a company to sell a product containing a known co-carcinogen. He understood my concern and replied that the ADA have no control over rinses, since they are classified as cosmetics. He told me that the ADA did not give Listerine Whitening an ADA seal of acceptance. Check in the grocery store the next time you are shopping – and see the products that do not have a seal of acceptance.This is not to say that the ones with a seal of acceptance are necessarily good for you – but the ones without may be harmful. I would be unethical not to share my concern. You can trust whomever you wish.I do not make money from selling or not selling the idea of bleaching, peroxide or any dental product.I do what I do because I am a 35 year veteran dentist that happens to have figured out that there is a lot going on in the world of dentistry. Do you have some affiliation with Pro Health? Why the anger?Ellie

  • Scott says:

    I am looking at your system, and I too am concerned about Alcohol based mouthwash and Listerine. Especially this article: http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24896583-5001021,00.htmlalthough, I see the link has been debated: hence this older study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12956348?dopt=AbstractSo, I’m not sure what to think. Do you still suggest Listerine?

  • Dr. Ellie says:

    Hi Scott,I am confident the safety of Listerine has been thoroughly investigated. I believe the link to the 2003 Alabama study http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12956348?dopt=Abstract is more useful information since it took a larger group and examined a variety of associated factors.The oral care industry is a red-hot, money making industry today. Remember that it was far less competative in 2003.The frequent use of Listerine for over 125 years gives me great confidence. There are many positive studies that show its effectiveness and that resistant strains are not developed. Listerine has been well scrutinized over the years. I think the article in the Telegraph was something of a sensation scare.Remember that Crest Pro Health is trying to take over the place of Listerine. Personally, you could not persuade me to changeI would never suggest using any Listerine rinse that does not carry an ADA seal of acceptance on the label. This takes off my list any Listerine Whitening, Tartar control or the advanced formulas. Perhaps the Telegraph article should take a closer look at all the Whitening/Bleaching products and their connection to oral cancer.Also I would never suggest leaving Listerine on teeth or in the mouth as a final rinse because of its mouth-drying effects. Listerine is a middle step in my three stage process. The Listerine cleans and acidifies the teeth but any potentially damaging effects from the acidity are turned to benefit by the use of ACT rinse immediately after the Listerine.The final rinse is with ACT Original (an alcohol free rinse). ACT Original ( a dilute fluoride, non-alcohol rinse) is the only rinse I would suggest you leave on your teeth.Hope this answers your question.Thanks so much for your interest.Ellie

  • mastro23 says:

    Hi EllieI have just bought a range of your products for the family to start the program I have receding gums and pockets. I had severe trauma to the mouth 25 years back…a major car accident. I lost about a third of teeth including fractured cheek bones and split jaw. i am 50. I have a 10 yr old son who has some teeth issues due to a connective tissue disorder. He will be missing 5 adult teeth. Anyway…a long winded way to ask…..your mouth rinses the ACT ones say alcohol free yet the cinnamin and the kids one states Benzyl Alcohol on the inactive ingredients…the Mint one doesn't have it. Could you explain what this all means??

  • Dr. Ellie says:

    Thanks for your message – you certainly do not need any more dental issues! It is important for you to look at my range of suggested oral rinses and toothpaste as a group – plus they need to be used in a very special sequence.Only if you do this, will this system work. Change one product, add another, use in the wrong order …..and you will not get the results you want. This is why we give as much information as we can – to help people purchase correct 'ingredients" for this recipe for oral health!We sell "kits" to help people get started – making sure they have everything exact.Now we publish a brochure to explain the steps – and sell this as a single item for $1.50 – just in case you insist on going out shopping yourself. I recommend a kit – so you get everything exact the first time.Then when you need more products – you can go to the store to purchase them, taking the empty bottles with you. I like the mint ACT best – but the Cinnamon will work. The Benzyl Alcohol is used in the cinnamon as a preservative. From all our patient results it works fine – but again, if you like the mint, that would be my #1 choice! Best Wishes,Ellie http://www.zellies.com26 Corporate WoodsRochester, NY 14623(585) 272-1270

  • Is it okay to mix hydrogen peroxide 3% with the crest pro-health mouthwash? I dont like the taste of the HP3% so i wanted it to be a little minty, even if its not half and half. Is it safe? or will the chemical reactions burn out my mouth?

  • Dr. Ellie says:

    Yeikes!!Beware of the effects of hydrogen peroxide on your mouth – and also beware the dangers of using Crest Pro Health!!TOGETHER?????Who knows what reaction this will have!!!You should probably start saving up for future dental expenses if you do try this.My advice – DON'T USE EITHER PRODUCT I think you should read my blog, my website or better yet – my book, Kiss Your Dentist Goodbye!

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